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- From: warren@borg.com (Warren Hall)
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
- Subject: Re: Astounding high CPS rate!
- Date: 19 Jan 1996 04:11:10 GMT
- Organization: Team OS/2
- Message-ID: <4dn5ku$t2o@news.borg.com>
- References: <4cvsii$h0@horus.infinet.com> <4db4ra$56@hg.oro.net> <DLAG1v.v8@giskard.demon.co.uk>
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- In <DLAG1v.v8@giskard.demon.co.uk>, dale@giskard.demon.co.uk (Dale Shuttleworth) writes:
- >Hi,
- >
- >Ed Starry (estarry@oro.net) wrote:
- >: armhead@infinet.com (Bob Selfinger) wrote about {Astounding high CPS rate!}
- >: in 'comp.dcom.modems'...
- >:
- >: ~ I have just gotten some dl's in the range of 1800-2100!
- >: ~ I never got that, even before the noise. It is not the files
- >: ~ being compressable or anything like that. They were all zip
- >: ~ files from various sources.
- >
- On a 14.4, 1681 bps is very satisfactory.
- You likely had small .zip files with many files embedded. The directories in
- the zip file are in text mode, thus a long file list yields compressable zip
- files. Four to seven percent is not unusual for small zip files.
-
- >
- >: For properly configured modems compression of <*.zip> files is no big deal.
- >: Actually, zip file transfers of only 2,100 cps is slow for a 14.4!
-
- That is nonsense. The most frequently reported rate is 1600 bps.
- >
- >This is not usually the case. If the ZIP files were perfectly compressed,
- >you would never exceed around 1750 bytes/sec. ZIP files are never quite
- >perfectly compressed however (I don't think ZIP compresses the file
- >directory for example) and sometimes V42bis can perform enough compression
- >to allow *slightly* higher rates.
-
- some snipped
- >
- >: Most, if not all, BBS's & ISP's 'Do Not' have compression enabled. It takes
- >: *TWO* properly configured modems and with a BBS on one end you will never
- >: see true high speed compression. Not knowing exactly what your set-up is
- >: there's a high probability you've inadvertently stumbled onto what most
- >: people believe to be impossible, 'Zip files ARE compressible!'
- >
- >Since most modems come pre-configured for compression and there is no
- >advantage in turning it off, most BBSs *do* support compression (except
- >the odd one which mistakenly configures the serial port speed to follow
- >the modem bit rate).
- >
- WRONG
- There is an advantage to turning off compression. If you are downloading
- zip files almost exclusively, the transmission of the decode tables (128 to
- 512 bytes per block) and the processing cycles can easily offset compression
- gain of a couple of percent. If you are in interactive mode where the transmission
- is typically of fewer than 76 bytes, the encode table would be more than twice,
- and up to 200 times the transmission block; all a compound waste.
-
- >I agree, ZIP files are compressible, you can probably compress them by
- >a maximum of about 5% in normal circumstances. If you are claiming
- >more, a lot of people will be along shortly offering you phenominal
- >amounts of money for the technology to do it.
- >
- >: If you have
- >: 16550 UART's and are able to set the TxFIFOBuffer to 16 give it a try, now
- >: send to yourself on the other PC. Depending on your modems capabilities and
- >: their configuration you could see rates of 5,000 cps, or higher, for <*.zip>
- >: files!
- >
- >Changing the TxFIFOBuffer settings cannot enhance the speed at which the
- >modems transmit data. If you are having problems with "overruns" then
- >you may be able to solve it by changing the FIFO settings, but this
- >cannot give you better performance than a carefully tuned system using
- >8250 or 16450 UARTS.
- >
- >: Incidentally, internal modems are 'usually' better at compression than
- >: externals. Not because of the 16550 but because internal modems buffer the
- >: UART via 'Additional RAM'. An external modem has 'Zero RAM' unless using a
- >: Hayes ESP card. LAPM modems are better than MNP, higher compression ratios.
-
- Internals are not blocked by 8250's on the serial board, at's why.
- >
- >Internal modems may be able to achieve higher transmission rates with
- >compression enabled since it is possible to send data to the modem at
- >a higher speed than the 11520 bytes/sec which most externals are
- >"limited" to (due to the 115200bps serial port speed). If you are
- >benefiting from this, I would suggest that you compress your data before
- >sending it - using PKZIP, gzip or similar to compress the file(s) before
- >you send them will be far faster than relying on V42bis.
- >
- >Buffering the UART *will not* increase the speed at which data flows,
- >unless you are experiencing overruns. The Hayes ESP card is not very
- >useful unless you need to use high (>115200bps) serial port rates (a
- >waste of time for most people), have a problem with overruns (which a
- >16550A will usually solve) or you are overly concerned about the load
- >the serial port is placing on your system (most people won't notice
- >the load imposed by a normal serial port so there is little benefit
- >here).
- >
- >: When you have control of both modems transfer rates can be quite high.
- >: Normally (99.94 % of the time) you only have control over one modem.
- >
- >Indeed, but if the person at the far end knows what they are doing,
- >you should be able to get good performance (phone lines permitting).
- >
- > Dale.
-
-
- Warren
- http://www.borg.com/~warren
-
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